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About Me Deviant Artist Member rene van drutenMale/Netherlands Group group avatar #Native-American-Fans
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February 2011
last week I got Geronimo back from the fireplace and it didn't work out as good as I had hoped. It was a baked accidentally on ceramic temperature of 1200°C which was too much. I wanted it to be baked at a maximum of 1000°C. During baking a sculpture will shrink, the higher the temperature the more pressure on the sculpture and the more it will shrink. This can cause cracks. And so on the line were I sliced it into two halves so I could hollow it out, it cracket along that line at the base of the shoulder. I can still fix that. More problematic however is that due to the high firing temperature the final result is much harder, and so also much Harder to work on for fine tuning.
On the other hand I am quite happy that the face isn't damaged!
I'm also working on a few other things that I might load up in the (near) future

24-10-2010 So the wet clay stadium is finaly done. I will now let it dry a bit before I will hollow it out. When that part is done I will do some more fine tuning on the hair, making it more smooth flowing.

Hey everybody (who's reading this),I strated working on a new sculpture buste. i am trying to do a portrait of Geronimo the last of the apache "war chiefs".
So far i found out that it's quite difficult. Mostly because i have to stick to his face while sometimes the clay wants do go into another direction and just use the pictures as a reference.
...The clay seems to have a mind of it's own, specially on parts were my mind is blank due lack of knowledge....

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:iconcaesar120:
Love the Gallery, Rene. In a word: STUNNING! I will be back to take a closer look.
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!karhiio Mar 1, 2012  Professional
miss me huh?

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!karhiio Feb 13, 2012  Professional
the selling of native culture...
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!karhiio Feb 13, 2012  Professional
Elves are found deep in Norse culture- so we would not find it misleading to find your avatar as an elf or orc- to dismiss this as history is irresponsible, you see we as Native peopes are in the present- we are not killed off, and your perspective of history is from the perspective of the dominating colonizers- if you were celebrating our ancestors there would be names to these busts, not a simple 'Iroquois III'. Iroquois is NOT how we identify to begin with, we are know as Kaien'keha:ka ....
our dialogue is complete as you will think twice before you put your hands to clay to fantasize and profit from our spirit.... the rest is in your conscience.
to compare us with elves and orcs ?!?!

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:iconrenemarcel27:
I try to make a statue that resembles what i think the native americans might looked like a couple of 100 dreds years ago. I make no effort to make them look like people of the present. Nor do i in any form state that they were al killed of as you suggest? The fact that the busts have no specific names is because i don't know how any specific person who lifed several 100dreds years ago looked like. My aim might not be to glorify any specific person. They fact that they have a number is only because there is more than one picture, and more than one bust.
And for your information these are not intended for sale.
And if you read my earlier text you see i only compared the avatar picture not the native americans to elfs and viking avatars. Looking at your avatar what would you be what would you make out off that?? sorry i never ever would make a question like that but it may be in your way of thinking.
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Mood: Doubtful !karhiio Feb 17, 2012  Professional
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Mood: Tired !karhiio Feb 17, 2012  Professional
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!karhiio Feb 13, 2012  Professional
oh ps

your orc reference is laughable, you know full well you are 'promoting and marketing' our ancestors and profiting off it to eager Europeans and others who see us as trophies.... if I am wrong tell us so- in a less provocative response- give some thought to your answers- about as much effort as you do in creating

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:iconrenemarcel27:
I think we basically differ in opinion on what a statue is ment for. You say it's for a trophy. In europe we may put statues on to honor but i never seen it being used as a trophy.
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Mood: Tired !karhiio Feb 17, 2012  Professional
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